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Post by Espurr on Jun 21, 2020 19:32:54 GMT
What is Diamond Crystal? Good question!Team Diamond Crystal is a mysterious organization that's made it their mission to purge gijinka and their supporters from the world. Despite a few relatively high-profile members, much about them is still unknown. Fortunately, they're not a complete mystery, and as such this file has been created to compile publicly known information about them.Their associated colors are blue and white, and one of their associated symbols is (of course) a diamond.So what have they done? Here's a list of past encounters with Diamond Crystal.Battle the Blaze & The Grand Finale - The lab is set on fire by vengeful Diamond Crystal members following the mass reveal of gijinkas living amidst everyone else a few months prior.
The "Shadow" Attack - "Lure" - Link
The "Shadow" Attack - "Bait and Trap" Buried Ruin - Crumbling Mines - Frozen Peak - Stillwood Hollow - Apricorn Factory - Tangled Lagoon
The "Shadow" Attack - "Deciding Blow" Ranger Base Attack - TR Base Attack
Crimes of Crystals Event Team Excavation -Team Cavern - Team Cave - Team Vein - Team Tunnel - Team Chasm
Crimes of Crystals - Stage 3 - link
Crystal Carnage - Calamity One, Calamity Two, Calamity Three - Summaries
List of Known Members Here's a list of people we know to be affiliated with Diamond Crystal. Annabelle GrexPreviously a Team Rocket scientist, Annabelle was one of the Diamond Crystal members responsible for the burning of the Seabreeze Pokemon lab. After being defeated, she fled with her Pokemon. Currently, she operates as a Diamond Crystal admin. Howard GrexPreviously a Team Rocket admin, Howard went rogue and joined team Diamond Crystal. Currently, he operates as a Diamond Crystal admin. Chris VerdePreviously a senior ranger, Chris was one of the Diamond Crystal members responsible for the burning of the Seabreeze Pokemon lab. After being defeated, he fled with his Pokemon. His status in the organization is unknown. Encountered here. Seems to have joined Team Diamond Crystal out of disgust for gijinka and their supposedly unnatural, well, nature. The chandelure who accompanied him spoke of an Isabella. Colette Quinn and EquinColette was sighted at the Battle the Blaze event, trying to keep people from helping around back of the burning lab. After her brother Equin was defeated in battle, they both fled...and neither have been seen since. Aphira & LirioEncountered here. She disappeared after a battle. She leaves the fighting to her pokemon. Momma Cotton's TrainerEncountered here. She disappeared after battle. Her momma had apparently returned to her. Obsidian & TopazEncountered here. They disappeared after the battle. His name is theorized here. ??? & UhtredEncountered here. Garnet & GingkoGingko is Garnet's starter. She cried out to Anna to take her away; might this be Annabelle? Sphene & SatuNo details yet. BeriloHe mentioned something about formal badges and crystal balls. Final encounter. Known Items Known History/Legends/Lore Miscellaneous information about the history/legends associated with team Diamond Crystal go here.Ruins Art - Initial Post - Evidence - In the Ancient Ruins of Lorea Desert there is a mural depicting a scene in which mothers and their children are bathed in a pale blue light from a large blue crystal. The reactions of the mothers range from fearful to delighted.
Some think that this is a mural meant to represent the arrival of Diamond Crystal, suggesting that the organization itself is far older than initially thought.
Additional evidence - "Titan" was held under these ruins. The ruins are the Crystalite Worship Ruins. Ren may be Titan's lost child.
The ruins were possibly always connected to the Village of Legends.
There is a prophecy in the mural. Hisuian pokemon in the present may have been a prophecy.
The above entry needs more research/discussion.
Organization Moles - Initial Post - Evidence - There seem to be DC moles in the ranks of Team Rocket, and from the thread it seems there is a system of them. It's been theorized that since one of the known Diamond Crystal members is an ex-ranger, perhaps there are moles in the Ranger Union as well.
Speculation that Professor Kari Maple may be a mole.
The above entry needs more research/discussion.
Suspicious Stones & Shadow Pokemon - Initial Post - Evidence - An encounter with an unusual pokemon yielded an equally unusually colored and electrified stone. Team Diamond Crystal may be involved.
Theorizing on how it may be related to mana/mega evolution. Speculation on unnatural mega evolution. More speculation/evidence of unnatural mega evolution/alternate forms. Speculation that more stones may exist and the Crystal Carnage Calamities may repeat.
The above entry needs more research/discussion.
Suspicions About Test Subjects - Initial Post - Summary/Debrief - A discussion was held about an exceptional test subject, a child of Diancie.
Additional theorizing about the zombie-like girl. Speculation that Karylena may not be the only gijinka subject to experimentation. Speculation about Karylena, other test subjects, and Karylena's desires.
Shulian Rhyhorn's Debut - Initial Post - It could be infected by something to do with the zombie-like girl or it could be powered by something to do with the team.
Regional variant entry.
Legendary Gijinka Children and Mana - Initial Post - Evidence - A unique form of power called mana is associated with the creation of legendary gijinka children. This mana interacts differently between humans and gijinka.
Theorizing. More mana theorizing. Evidence + theorizing. Magic that isn't magic. Mega mana.
-- Theorizing on DC's unusual mega evolutions + unusual typings and movesets. More theorizing on the connection between mega evolution, mana, and gijinka.
Theorizing on rebirth.
Karylena's death may have wide reaching consequences.
Enemies of Team Diamond Crystal? - Initial Post - Theorizing - These ladies certainly don't like Team Diamond Crystal.
This is a good place to put Village of Legends info, all things considered: Summary/speculation of known members/associates.
More research/discussion is needed.
Former DC? - Thread - Theorizing - Astra was called exiled by Obsidian.
Organization's Strength and Standing - Theorizing - DC's assets may be dwindling.
Information on the group's organization and distribution/recruitment.
Glorious Trio/Big Three - Theorizing - Initially mentioned during the Crystal Carnages.
Further speculation on who the Glorious Trio may be. Jirachi is allied with Team DC; there's also speculations on Jirachi's motivations.
Reshiram may consider their ambitions a deathwish.
More research/discussion is needed.
Got any info to add? Be sure to contribute to the factfile! If you have encountered anything that you think is Diamond Crystal related, link the post in a reply to this thread and give your thoughts and theories.We encourage everyone to come in and discuss each other's theories - when you've gotten close enough to the truth or worked it out with your fellow theorists, the information will be added to the file!WORDS -- | TAGGED @everyone!
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Post by Logan Kaitos on Jun 22, 2020 10:01:35 GMT
Type of information - Lore? History? Something like that Evidence - This postTheory - I think based on what zaki saw here, taking this post as one alone in the thread (so others can read/add more from that thread if they so chose) I think the light thats seen bathing over the mothers in the cave/ruin art is meant to represent DC and them arriving possibly, maybe them watching over the mothers in the way the light is shown? The reactions of the mothers seem to show that some people were fearful of them, some happy for them and others nervous of their ?arrival? Just wanted to give an example to start everyone off
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 0:55:19 GMT
Type of Info: Event! Evidence: Sign-up thread (OOC evidence but still involves an xtransciever message from Kari so I think it's important): LinkRound 1 of threads: Buried Ruin - Crumbling Mines - Frozen Peak - Stillwood Hollow - Apricorn Factory - Tangled LagoonBase attacks: Ranger Base Attack - TR Base AttackTheory: Now, I only really followed the thread I was involved in (Apricorn Factory) and the subsequent attack threads, but I honestly think that Diamond Crystal wanted to make a big statement first and foremost. While the two people who ended up attacking the ranger base and the tr base respectively had their own very strong desires for vengeance, there's no reason to believe that the attacks were their idea in the first place or that there wasn't some manipulation involved on the part of the organization's higher-ups (especially in the attack on the TR base, where one of the assailants was a literal child).
I think it's extremely likely that DC wants to have notoriety and that they want people to know them. After all, the more people that know about you, the more of a reputation you have, and reputation both breeds fear and potential for recruitment.
I dunno. That's just my idea. I'd be up to brainstorm more if anyone else wants to!
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Post by Milarnie Colt on Dec 26, 2020 6:10:37 GMT
Spitballing on Hunts Idea, I personally think the opposite. People were lured away in small groups to remote places and then trapped or stuck in the area somehow, very much divide and conquer tactics there which suggests to me several things.
1 - They needed time to get the second half of the attack sorted or evened out, did this mean those who were actually seen to attack needed to be convinced? Did they need to sort something out for or with them like payment, healing or something else?
2 - They fear the public and being known, since what is now known to be a renegade group of their's tried to take on the lab and were stopped by a lot of trainers in a very public way, it seems like ever since the group have gone to ground. They risked a lot by coming out and doing this, several more of their members being seen or noticed or even battled and yet when it came to hitting 2 very public spaces, no one from DC seemed to be directly there. Seems to me like they fear the public and want to keep them from working together
3 - The fact so many places were able to be set up as traps seems to suggest the group is very wide spread in a lot of ways, access to trap a factory? And an ancient tomb? And a snowy mountain peak? Seems like too many places for a small ragtag group to be able set up all by themselves.
4 - Everything DC seem to have done so far seems to be trying to recover from the lab fire, those met in other threads and places all seem to be trying to be hidden or covert and this attack seems to scream of wanting to deal with powerful targets while taking the least casualties or giving as little away as possible.
5 - They used someone else against those they seemed worried about, suggests to me that they not only have large numbers (from above) but also they dont want to risk said people being seen or exposed any more than they have to. Also, they got 2 very upset and hurt people to work with them, a little like the upset and hurt renegades and the pokemon who aided them, thats a lot of hurt feelings all wrapped up in these things and vulnerable people and pokemon who have been manipulated.....
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Post by Feral on Dec 26, 2020 6:20:54 GMT
Type of information - Knowledge Evidence - This ThreadTheory - I have come to note two things from this thread, both seemingly of note. Firstly, note only are there FOR SURE moles from DC within TR, some of them are stupid or bad enough to have gotten noticed and so TR knows about them. This suggests that firstly, theres more than one and it seems to suggest maybe a system of them, not unlike TR's own. Grunts making stupid mistakes and being noticed, maybe higher ups drawing attention to have them removed? Maybe higher ups keeping their heads down to stay within when the idiots are caught? Maybe no higher ups and lots of grunts to give the illusion? Of the back of this, considering we know one of the DC members we do know about is/was in the ranger's, maybe the above applies to the ranger base and maybe even the police too. Secondly, based on the end of the thread, DC can bring themselves to work with gijinka if it aids their goals but they will always turn on them in the end. Only the sheer power feral had kept her and her team safe and had she been someone weaker, there would have been a nasty end. This seems to suggest DC use gijinka like tools and like how TR us pokemon, useful until they arent and then disposed of or at the very least battled in to submission or silence maybe.
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Post by Remy 'Thorn' Dupris on Apr 21, 2021 20:55:52 GMT
So while I drove home from work today, I was running through some thoughts about the DC, which I do cuz im a weird nerd.
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Based off of what I've read in the round 1 threads of the CC event, many had reference to a 'professor' and a tall figure who is obviously the unknown mastermind.
let's for a second really assume that there is a professor, they all focus on different aspects of pokemon and strength.
I know personally in my thread at the Apricorn Factory as listed above, we didn't quite make it through the barrier in time, and the galarian meowth took a piece of metal and shaped it into a crystal like thing.
Before this the only real crystals I know that have ever existed in the Pokemon universe have been the megastones.
Could it be that the true goal of the diamond crystals is some new form of evolution? They set up all the barriers as stall tactics, and in our case they got the 'stone' they were looking for. It was shown in both raids that the Garchomp and the Lopunny both were twisted into some new forms with new powers that were rather powerful, but they both faded away.
What if this new form of evolution is one that transcends form? The purple haze from the Rocket raid being the true essence that uses corpses like puppets? Its more of an evolution of the spirit than the body.
This could also be why they hate Gijinka so much, since they are the fusion of body and soul of human and Pokemon. They seek to elevate the soul to the next level than making what they consider a horizontal blend.
anyway that's just what I was thinking about, and would welcome any discussion or contradictions or support. it's the way to keep our brains moving.
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Post by Kai Kaitos on Nov 19, 2021 20:45:22 GMT
Type of information Suspicious stones / shadow pokemon Evidence: this threadTheory: Going on the events that occurred with the Shadowy Houndoom that Kai and Logan encountered in this thread and what occurred as a result of such - most notably the aggressive behaviour that the fire type displayed and shadows that enveloped the canine before it's ultimate defeat and the discovery of an odd coloured and electrified stone that fell from it would seem to indicate somewhere along the line that the Diamond Crystal team may have something to do with this? Given they seem to have been quiet for a long time and maybe they are behind the scenes somewhere running experiments upon pokemon in order to see how these stones affect certain types of pokemon and what havoc is caused both to those in their natural habitat and towards any people who may come to interact with them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 5:49:45 GMT
Type of information Suspicious stones / shadow pokemon Evidence: this threadTheory: Going on the events that occurred with the Shadowy Houndoom that Kai and Logan encountered in this thread and what occurred as a result of such - most notably the aggressive behaviour that the fire type displayed and shadows that enveloped the canine before it's ultimate defeat and the discovery of an odd coloured and electrified stone that fell from it would seem to indicate somewhere along the line that the Diamond Crystal team may have something to do with this? Given they seem to have been quiet for a long time and maybe they are behind the scenes somewhere running experiments upon pokemon in order to see how these stones affect certain types of pokemon and what havoc is caused both to those in their natural habitat and towards any people who may come to interact with them. On the wrong character but here to say that in this thread here Milarnie came across both the gem stone found by the brothers as well as another which was a different color. I too assumed from the fact its a "gem" that it had something to do with DC and the coloring of it too but the Pink makes me think theres something deeper to it all. Maybe they are testing different types of gems? Maybe they are making smaller versions of the gems they have been seen to use for healing? However these seem to be fallout of whatever the group are doing, not directly causing it or within it seeing as they dont have DC people around them, assumedly
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Post by Akira "Raine" Kaitos on Jun 6, 2022 19:17:33 GMT
Type Of Information: Suspicions regarding Diamond Crystal and their 'test subjects' Evidence: this threadInterview: The following is part of an interview of one of the many witnesses of a recent investigation in the crystal caves made by varying people including member's of the Ranger's and Polices - what is told here is a unique case of one individual having an experiance that no others were privy to. "Ok Mr Raine, now we have heard from others just what transpired within those caves - however they all agree on one thing in particular. You appeared to have an 'episode' that only you appeared to experiance, care to elaborate?""Well, it's hard to explain - well, maybe it isn't actually but I will do my best to explain. You see; although I was a little cautious about the group of individuals to begin with like everyone else call me stupid if you want but all I saw was a little girl - a gijinka as it would turn out - who had been kidnapped and had been used a test subject for who knows how long and with what methods. In my mind she were not something to be feared but rather helped - regardless of any possible danger that it could cause - because why should gijinka be feared? Especially by those who claim to want to help them but then get picky when it comes to certain individuals?. . . . . . . So as you probably got told I approached her, I wanted to help her. But it was strange, my memory is still fuzzy on all that happened in the caves that day I only know I was there and helped with other things because other people told me so - I mostly only remember onwards from where met the girl. . . . . . . But she looked different, there were less crystals on her. We were standing in a large meadow that had ahuge wall that was visible even from a distance away, it was spring time and she were using some power to grow daises of every colour and I was standing with her. She looked so happy - like she should be - I wanted to make sure she stayed happy and safe so of course when she asked me to stay with her and protect her I just couldn't refuse. It's just in my nature to want to do such a thing so in my mind the choice seemed simple even if she hadn't asked, especially as there were something about her that seemed more than a little special somehow. . . . . . . . I only say this because I know there are some gijinka who are children of legends and there were something about this girl that seemed extra special. . . . . . . You see, although I am only partly sure and only going from what vaguely know of certain legends she really looks like the child of a Diancie. . . . . . . . . . But anyway, that is what happened to myself as for what occurred after this - well this is what happened . . . . .. "Any further events from where Akira experienced his vision refer to thread unless further input is put in by anyone
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 0:50:36 GMT
Type of Info: Information gathered from event [INCOMPLETE] Evidence: Event Announcement Thread - Stage 3Information (with minimal theorizing in between):-An announcement/call to action came from Isle Changling, saying that an obscure location experienced some kind of disturbance that caused a cave mouth to open within.
-There seemed to be a lot of activity in the caves, unusual for the location, and the caves needed to be investigated further.
-Volunteers were split into 6 different teams to investigate, and 5 made it through into the deeper caverns after discovering a password to make it through (skipping over these details as they aren't the focus of this post) - MEMBERS OF THE INVESTIGATION TEAMS ARE ENCOURAGED TO POST THEIR OWN REPORTS!
-Upon entering into the depths of the crystal-lined caverns, the investigation party encountered a girl covered in pink crystals (and surrounded by individuals covered in crystals colored blue and white, notably the Diamond Crystal team colors).
-When she was called out to, she responded with an echoing voice, one that seemed to come from the cave walls (and crystals embedded within). All of her voices had different tones to them.
-The group tried to de-escalate and offer help, garnering a smile from the girl but no reaction from the crystal-covered group surrounding her. In response, she said that she'd been freed by her "help", who would keep "us" (likely her and her "friends", which was what she called the group around her) safe.
-A specific quote that may be relevant to the interview with Akira- "I am linked to this ground, now it is linked to me, I think they broke something" (in reference to being asked about what DC did to her).
-In response to being asked who the people around her were, she said that they were "better now", that she was "born like this", and that "they" found a way to make it "stronger, spreadable". "They wanted to make it for pokemon, to empower them. I did it to people." After saying this, she offered to let the group join her, and expressed her desire to make a village of her own down in the caves where it'd be safe.
-(It was at this point when Akira approached her in a further attempt to pacify her, even while being discouraged by literally everyone else.) Other information will have to be added later on, as the thread is still ongoing. I just wanted to get the ball rolling, because there's a lot to cover in this thread alone (and I recommend the individual investigation teams write up reports on anything they discovered in their team threads as well, in case it's important). My own interpretations:-Like stated in Akira's interview above, I don't think there's any chance that this isn't a Diancie gijinka- between the pink crystals and the way her smile's been described (that is, like a crack or fracture forming across her face), she's very clearly at least a rock type.
-Regardless of how long she's been captured, she's very clearly been at least a little bit broken by the experience, with some...[vague hand gestures] ehhhh morality resulting. I'd imagine she would have been very lonely down in the caves, after all.
-To me, it's very clear that her "friends" have been put into a sort of zombie-like state, and I really don't think there's any coming back from it (after all, their bodies have literal crystals growing out of them). At most, and I don't think this is likely, 'recovery' would look like...well, uh.
Chronic disability, dependence on the girl (with a range of 'no' to 'probably not much' independence), and/or terrible PTSD.
On the bright (not really) side, the implication here is that at least a chunk of these 'zombies' used to be horrible racist terrorists!! So!!! There's that!!!!! (help.) My own thought here (and this isn't a revolutionary thought lol, this is very closely based on the information gathered above) is that she's been under Diamond Crystal's control for a very long time, kept trapped in the caves and forced to keep growing more and more of her crystals with the aim of making Pokemon more powerful (maybe related to the Shadow Pokemon attack?) Between the (at least verbal) abuse she likely endured from the members of Diamond Crystal and the demand, something had to give mentally to keep her going- speaking from experience, constant breakdowns aren't sustainable, and eventually your brain and body are going to react and adapt to the pressure. (Like a coal turning to diamond. Lol. Lmao.) At some point either before or after this 'break', she lashed out and 'infected' someone (likely a Diamond Crystal member) with her crystals, and put them into a sort of zombified state. I think that considering how her group in the thread seem to be under her control and how Akira has been reacting to her influence, she has some sort of empathetic power that sort of enforces this desire to protect her onto those she's trying to infect- hence her referring to her horde as "friends". This makes sense, considering...well...she's? A kidnapping victim? Safety would be a top priority for someone in her state, both physically and emotionally. However, she's clearly amassed quite a horde, which implies there was at least a brief period where DC had some sort of shaky truce with her on this front- maybe because she/her "friends" were shackled up (there are a series of broken chains in the cave she was discovered in). "Truce" as in. Well. They didn't think her infecting people was enough of an issue that needed to be addressed. I believe she and her group escaped their chains a little bit before the investigation groups arrived, considering in the event announcement it said the cave mouth everyone was called to investigate was opened up due to some kind of disturbance. Furthermore, I believe this disturbance was caused by the girl's "help" as it (he, she said) broke her and her group from their chains. I think from there, wanting to be careful, she and the group remained in the cavern she'd been trapped in as "help" went off and made sure the area was safe. Since she's expressed intent to create a safe haven down there, I feel like she wasn't quite planning on leaving, but it would be unusual for her to not at least walk around and explore a bit. As such, I feel like the "help" left her to clear the caves of potential threats (read: DC and the investigation team) either of its own volition or on her command. And...well, as of this post, the "help" is coming back to confront the investigation team. So that's a thing. Lol. And now that I'm here, adding onto this post with a point while I have it on the mind (take it with a grain of salt though). I was under the impression that this girl, though physically small, was very much an adult, especially considering how gijinka age (it only takes 6 years for a gijinka to reach adulthood at an actual maturity of 18 years, outside factors and the fact that legendary gijinka seem to have extended lifespans notwithstanding). However, depending on how long she's been missing and how old she is, this might...have worse implications than if she was actually a little girl. We really don't know how long she's been here.And...without metagaming (I want people to be able to post this information themselves, since this isn't something any of my characters would know IC)... I think she's been missing for a very long time.Over and out.
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Post by Amaryllis Devereux on Jun 20, 2022 18:40:59 GMT
Type of info: It’s just a theory about a pink crystal rhino Pokemon, a DC theory! Evidence: Stage 3Information: The group (that was not with Akira at the moment) saw this giant rhino with pink crystals all over its body. Nix says the thing could be infected by the same thing the gijinka girl and her ‘friends’ were under and I’ll assume the rhino’s crystals are powered by someone or something, maybe the power is from the girl herself or another person behind the scenes? We don’t know what kind of Pokemon it is and we haven’t identified it yet, but it actually looks like...an infected crystal version of Rhydon?
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Post by Akira "Raine" Kaitos on Mar 22, 2023 11:23:39 GMT
Type Of Information: Lore / Knowledge / Other(?) Evidence: HereTheory: This theory is more in relation towards the legendary pokemon and their gijinka children, along with certain other details that may be linked to Diamond Crystal and the place in which such legendary children call homeWhile it seems for the most part that gijinka children - those born of 'regular' pokemon or legends - come about much like their full human counterparts ther are some who are born as a result of their legend parent 'gifting' their human spouse a part of their Mana - or life force if you will - in order to conceive a child. There are certain beings that have easier access to doing this than others, along with feeling a deeper connection to the world around them - though this would be as a result of their particular typing being more sensitive to such things. It seems that there is likely a chance that as a result of this deeper connection to the world that such mana can be passed along more easily of those of particular bloodlines - sometimes even to those who are of no relation to them, even going so far on some occasions to be able to literally show those they come into contact with places that the receiver may never have seen before. (An example of this is that during the crystal caverns event and repeated in the above legend thread Akira was shown a place called 'The Plains Of Faerie's' which surounded a walled place that is assumed to be where legendary gijinka are able to live safely away from humans for their own safety.) It is likely this Mana - this deeper connection to the world - that resulted in Karylena being taken by Diamond Crystal given her own heritage, connection to and was able to control to use for their own cruel reasons. However; while there are indeed those - like Karylena - who are able to use Mana to connect with the world around them in a positive manner along with whatever other beings without any bad effects, those who would be trying to harness such abilities for more negative means are unlikely to know or even realise that such Mana is not compatible with human's. For such causes a certain amount of sickness in the human that such Mana is fused with and as it is an extension of the being who shared such with the receipiant means that should such an individual pass on fromthe world of the living they are not fully able to rest because there is a part of them forced to remain behind, to be called a 'curse' would be too harsh a word but it has it's negative effects all around. In my opinion the combination of what happened both in the crystal caverns - including the crazy weather and the like leading up to such - and the information shared however small by the Diancie that is Karylena's father shows that all gijinka especially those of legernd and have a deeper connection to the world need to be protected more and helped in order to avoid being taken by Diamond Crystal and having cruel experiments done on them. For this may only be the beginning of some negative events if allowed to continue and no one is there to stop them, for if harm is allowed to be done upon such people makes those who do noting no better than those in DC.
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Post by Aurelia "Reaper" Regnard on Aug 12, 2023 13:07:07 GMT
Okay it's theory time. This is just of my thoughts oocly
The past: What knows is a lot what we all know at this point this war between DC and Gijinkas have been going on for a while now more than centuries to the post even child into the hidden training them from a young age maybe even younger. There are a few hints they even a system network and ranks system different team rockets for sure. They even have child in their ranks like garnet for example (Proof mila and akira ?? event thread0
One of the girls from battle the blaze first spoke about what happened in the past or at least what they think happened. “A girl of royal birth was mixed with a gijinka and the family wasn't too happy about it and was killed." At the time would be perfect since however in the Akira thread the Diancie spoke a bit of the matter and I quote "And my species are responsible, following that same logic, for the hunting of Karylena's kind because of one pokemon who could not handle being rejected."
Okay so that bunked the previous state given and more questions. What happened if at first gijinka and humans lived peacefully which is kinda confirmed by a few murals found in the ruins. let's be a legendary pokemon because if it was a normal pokemon I don't it would have that of impact. Legendary pokemon are likely gods of this world so if gijinka and human were once at peace then maybe they would now take interest in a woman for some reason or another. She didn't want anything to do with the legendary but was either to force else or something. It happened and she had a gijinka.
That would enough be enough for humans to question if gijinka were okay or not but to war. You need a catalyst. Given birth to gijinkas isn't the easiest thing in the world at all. Like Nix she lost the ability to have anymore children and almost her own life when she tried to have another. Image if the woman wasn't lucky so she die leaving behind friends, maybe even a lover, and family to mourn over her.
Hated and resentment leads to revenge and a war between gijinka and humans. This petty grudge and resentment from that day is DC. It's a long shot filled with speculation, however maybe some things can hold light. It would explain why the mural and it’s text and mixed emotions.
“a large blue crystal. The reactions of the mothers range from fearful to delighted.” There was some mothers who loved their child, viewed them as threat or hated them in constant to those who didn’t want the child at all, they were happy.
I have questioned this for a long time. Why the hell is DC doing and wants to manipulate Mana. Mana (in akira's Diancie legend) connect to everything. It's the energy we all have constantly being recycle in life and death. I believe legendary pokemon as the whole have the purest mana. Just look at the legends and you saw there so many evidence they do have mystical however through the ?? event. The shadows keep speaking of the pure. How dare you get beat by anything but the pure? Are humans not pure mana? Is something off with our mana? It's raise a lot of questions.
I have reason to believe it’s them.
Shadow pokemon were once human almost completely given in both of the raid battles
Okay I think I might have found a small lead on what the heck this beasts are or least I can shed some like one them. There pokemon as reactant of people who were once dead. Rereading the raid it’s come clear the person we saw with the garchomp was a boy and once little brother who got wrong by rangers while the lopunny was a child and it’s mother was once a member of team rocket who died.
I have reason to believe this was some experiment with mana. It’s why they need kay someone who is tend to it. They used her with gems to attend a more stable fusion. It's why we found the pink gems that one event although there not a lot of threads about. From the two threads it was an experiment done in a lab(likely the one that got blow up in the event that came after). The pink gems were cause of "shadow pokemon" transformed and only after the gem was removed did they seemed to the normal pokemon seem to get better and return to themselves.
It's a huge step up from the shadow garchomp and lopunny who disappeared into then air, am I right? Those gems were piece of kay's power no doubt about it.
What does this all mean? I still can’t put my finger how they do. It’s been hinted they use water, it’s cold and crystals. If I had to guess then maybe their are crystals that able to remove or tamper with a people/pokemon/ even gijijnka's mana. I have no proof of that so it’s a lot of speculation.
Gijinkas and legendary keep saying we broke what could that be. I have my guess it’s balance that mana hold on the world. Proof? Look what happen to shula weather for over 5-10 years due Kay torment least that what I think anyway. Mana is some that keep the world working(taken from akira Diancie legend so if broke something it’s like we or DC “broke” the world. Balance has been affect an tend it has everlasting effects. It's could also be the boundaries between life and death. Whatever it is it's no gijinka wants to tells us what it is yet maybe someday they will the shed some before it's too late.
Shulian mimiyu vs Dead gijinka
Alright I want to light them. Shulian mimikyu seem to be spirits of past/ dead who managed to be given a second change by Lunala. Some have been shown to keep their memories in fact (look at genesis legend for details). This is different from naven. In emeline’s legend she met fawn’s friend who has gotten turned into rotom after getting caught by DC.
It’s clear there is a different between lunala using her powers than dc using whatever mothed they use. It might why they are constantly experiments and I doubt it will be the last time we see shadow pokemon. As much as I give DC props for all the hell they have cause I don’t their method can beat a legendary pokemon right now. Or else it would simple they wouldn't have need Kay or the lab to keep testing and try to perfected this fusion.
More thoughts on DC
I will to poke out something now that I think about naven might have been a source of energy/ mana for DC. As Victini has infinite energy or no doubt he would have that too back then. I feel like it had some role to play but idk what.
DC has been manipulative people who lost love once possible, parting with the balance of mana. Those lives and death…. WAIT THAT also might what broke as well. Oh no! As they still see themselves as the “saviors”. I don’t think the lose of Kay has a huge impact because i think got what they wanted which being the mega stones. So we might have to deal with the even more dangerous threads later one.
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Post by Luna Sallow on Aug 12, 2023 23:05:30 GMT
Okay I think I might have found a small lead on what the heck this beasts are or least I can shed some like one them. There pokemon as reactant of people who were once dead. Rereading the raid it’s come clear the person we saw with the garchomp was a boy and once little brother who got wrong by rangers while the lopunny was a child and it’s mother was once a member of team rocket who died. I have reason to believe this was some experiment with mana. It’s why they need kay someone who is tend to it. They used her with gems to attend a more stable fusion. It's why we found the pink gems that one event although there not a lot of threads about. From the two threads it was an experiment done in a lab(likely the one that got blow up in the event that came after). The pink gems were cause of "shadow pokemon" transformed and only after the gem was removed did they seemed to the normal pokemon seem to get better and return to themselves. I cant say a lot on this but i can point out on thing - ICly as Nix at least - No, no they didnt return. Once they were "fused" in some way by the DC's, assumingly using these crystals, they became these shadow pokemon who were nothing but power and rage. They lashed out against everything and anything beside something which seemed to have HUGE sentimental meaning to them, which they treated as a trainer. When they were defeated, fused being and original pokemon seemed unable to exist together in the body, or the body had taken too much damage from said fusing, or maybe from their rampage as its known both these shadow pokemon perished after this event.... Not the most successful experiment
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Post by Remy 'Thorn' Dupris on Aug 14, 2023 23:39:46 GMT
Lore Evidence: shula.proboards.com/thread/21368/wrong-man-job-closed-gardeon?page=1&scrollTo=117079Summary: Essentially, after the last contest Thorn was summoned to a hidden island where he was disclosed certain information about the fate of our world by three Gijinka. Despite Thorn's rather...poor ability to make friends, the information certainly was credible that the very existence of the world was being threatened due to a vortex. This was implied to be tied into the Diamond Crystal's abduction of the girl in the caverns, as already highlighted above. Also there was information given to him about a Legendary Pokemon running amok. Have any of those who have met legendaries heard of anything like this, or have any of them been acting strangely? Also since the girl fused with the ground in the cavern, the Pink Crystals were revealed to be a spark needed for Mega Evolution. ALSO Thorn did not disseminate this information solely amongst the rockets, he also distributed it to the Rangers which means this is accessible info to everyone IC BUT, In regards to the moles amongst the TR populace, Thorn has been working to identify them, but not eliminate them as of yet. He has been only trusting his real missions and anything of importance to those he considers worthy (PC's) rather than those he doesn't (nameless not real grunts) THEORY CRAFTING: Since new forms of Pokemon attacked both faction's respective bases, the girl's death led to a new form of evolution available, and the initial attack was on a Pokemon Lab, this only further looks to point to the fact that the DC are looking to create/exploit some artificial evolution to ruin us all.
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Trainers
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♂ 08
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♀ 00
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Police
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♂ 03
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♀ 02
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Civilians
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♂ 03
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♀ 02
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Team Rocket Members
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♂ 07
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♀ 05
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Coordinators
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♂ 03
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♀ 03
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Rangers
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♂ 02
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♀ 05
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Breeders
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♂ 03
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♀ 03
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Gijinka
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♂ 05
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♀ 06
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Humans
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♂ 24
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♀ 14
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Total
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♂ 29
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♀ 20
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