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Post by Tangaroa “Hunu” Emzar on Jul 24, 2024 12:03:12 GMT
My theory on DC and TR, dating back with Gijinka and War plus a bit of Mega Theory From Titan Legend Thread it was stated that there were both forces of Red and Blue, insinuating the existence of DC having to do with multiple times ago. This is supported by the fact, deep below the desert ruins there was two parties. One which consists of Gijinka, and Red supposedly being Team Rocket though I could be wrong. Furthermore, Titan explains that they had lost a child into a war for territory by a Gijinka. Outraged, he had created a calamity that devastated the land. MANA: Here Titan also goes into detail of Mana, where its not just Pokémon but people as well. Mana is naturally shared, however Pokémon are more entuned to it so once they run out they can't use moves but people; die. Which most likely supports as to why Mega Evolutions outright are detrimental to those that access it, especially if it is forced upon will. Regret and Potential Wish: I believe Titan, with their hate a distain caused Carnage with the assistance of the Comet of Wishes, Jirachi. By wanting to get pay back for what they had done, Titan had probably attempted to go to Jirachi and ask for a wish. However in Jirachi's own unique way, did what was asked however as a sacrifice used all of Titan's mana to achieve this. That, or when showing remorse for the actions he had done. He went to Jirachi to reset it all, in exchange for his Mana and to remain in solitude. As Titan mentions he is out of Mana, and completely dry. This aligns with Jirachi's ambitions, and is supported by the current legend thread here: Leo Legend with JirachiCorrection: Titan didn’t use Jirachi, they instead were the one being used. By having a child, they were slain my opposing Gijinka over territory. In a fit of rage, Titan temporarily aligned themselves to Diamond Crystal and was used as a sword. Used as a beacon of power or force, to eliminate threats. However remorseful for their actions, and potentially needed for further use later. Titan was inevitably imprisoned, whether by their own fruition or Diamond Crystals. Acting as a source of power, and the effects of how individuals are affected within the ruins the deeper you go. Potentially Titan feeds off of the mana of others, despite not having moves to use they still have mana. Avion is also a Latias child, and Titan’s own child is referred to be “like her”. Which can be assumed as a Gijinka as well. Blue and Red: Instead of it being Team Rocket, I assume whoever Morgan was speaking to at the end of the thread was the “Red”. The “Blue” being diamond and crystal, as it can be hinted at them calling Titan a weapon or monster, that’s used at the disposal for Diamond Crystal. Berlin was there in attempt to reawaken Titan, to prove himself and claim his Pokemon that he had lost. Hierarchy and Punishment: The hierarchy and punishment of DC is hard to pinpoint, however the higher you are the more you can do and have at your disposal. There are also times where your Pokemon is taken from you if you fail, as what the boy suggested since he hadn’t seen his own Pokemon for days. Whether they are killed or passed on to another trainer is unsure, however there are also “barracks” but I feel like they are more for camps of failures to punishment them not just by taking away their Pokemon. But also pushing them to hurt one another, themselves too, both physically and psychologically. Avion: Avion was there for a reason, probably as a means to free Titan for their own means. Who is currently on the same path as Titan, and willing to burn the whole world down as a means to get what she believes is just and right. Therefore will play a middle ground, and do something irrational. Village of Legends: I believe the “Red” is the Village of Legends, and exactly where Morgan was sent to and had encountered a numerous amount of other Gijinka. Namely legendary ones. Farming and Exploitation: In this thread here Stage 3, the group encounter the Diance Gijinka which seems to have been forcibly used and exploited. Somehow, in my eyes they were able to corrupt her by extracting her mana and twisting it. Those she deems as "Friends", are placed in a completely new reality as well. Leaving them husks, here I believe due to the chains as well, both the Gijinka and her "friends" have been farmed for their crystals. With a wide variety of effects, that have attuned themselves with the earth. They are able to "grow" back after a period of time, as supported by Akira's Thread with Diance on how they grow back. Here I believe the crystals the team use, are from the Gijinka and her creation infested with twisted Mana. This seems to be a painful process from her talking about two different groups, that are either "friends" or "hurt". Village and Brainwash: Here, the girl is clearly obsessed with helping the world. She even rejects the notion of war and her own father's want for natural order in This Thread, of course whatever has happened to her is twisted. As she infects those and they live in a state of limbo, zombies however are somewhat are at "peace" despite being in chains. She hints at a village, that even her own father states in the thread with Akira. I believe her friends come from this village since she is so familiar with them. Those who arrived are affiliated with her father as well. I believe that the village Morgan was sent to from this thread was the village both the Diance Gijinka, and the other legendary Gijinka. The one speaking to him, was potentially those in the village or the girl's father. However it could also be other people, such as the Xerneas Gijinka there as well due to sharing the same chat color. Mana Effects: I believe was caused the infection of those were at the result of the constant fluctuation of her own Mana toward her "Friends", forcefully placing them in a new reality that they perceived. Out of fruition, of the world she WANTED. Therefore the effects were much more harmful to non Gijinka, which has caused multiple harmful effects. Such as the trainer in the desert ruins attempting to prevent Morgan from delving deeper.
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Post by Tangaroa “Hunu” Emzar on Jul 24, 2024 13:14:18 GMT
Village of Legends: Morgan was indeed sent to the village of legends, as it was Titan who gave a call or was able to send them to such a place. This is supported by the names of those who are listed, and are current residents of the Village of Legends. Aulina: Aulina is a strange case as they are not directly stated with name, however what could be suggested is they are either the child of Mew or even Celibi. As both wield the power to teleport, tho Celibi is through time and space. Past, future and present. Jasan: Confused with Avion, Jasan is the Moltres Gijinka Verity: Verity is the Reshiram Gijinka Ikas: Seen as a herbalist and healer, Ikas is the Gijinka of MewTwo Elias: The Zekrom Gijinka, and is suggested to even the odds Davos: Yvetal Gijinka, who is a trickster Miekka: Miekka was one of the main driving factors in the thread, as they are the Gijinka for Palkia and were giving out both orders and suggestions. Ava: Ava being mentioned, and is the Gijinka of Virizion Both the names of the Gijinka and the description match here: village of legends and the Legendary Thread of Titan where the names are suggested. I believe due to this, and the surprise of those legends. Titan had left on their own fruition and was inevitably trapped himself out of punishment, or to ensure the others were unable to be found. With these new current events, it seems Crystal Diamond are playing more aggressively and so will the Village of Legends. It also hints at the existence of other legendary Gijinka, outside of the group as they were unaware of who Avion was.
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Post by Ilargi “Bii” Benigno on Jul 27, 2024 0:55:35 GMT
Alright, pitching one last set of theories & observations from this thread (way late oops) before the next round of summarizing... Observation #1: Reshiram said that Verity came out to help those effected by the events that got another of her kind killed recently. This is almost certainly a reference to the events in the Crystal Caverns with Karylena. The form of help that Verity was rendering in this thread was assisting an temporally displaced pokemon give live birth, a distinctly different event from laying an egg. Observation #2: The ursaluna came to the present through a series of "recent" and "long-awaited" events. Observation #3: Reshiram referred to a group of "idiots" with a "deathwish for the region." Theory #1: The effects of Karylena's death are far reaching, it seems. Considering Reshiram's words about a "death wish for the region" and the likelihood that he's referring to Team Diamond Crystal, there's a possibility that gijinka are not, as professed by Jirachi in another thread, something that makes things more difficult to the region, but possibly necessary. Maybe they were not so before they existed, but there's real in universe consequences of getting rid of one of them now, so the possibility ought to be considered. Conclusion...! It might be good to prod more into the ideological differences/different perspectives of legendary pokemon on either side of this divide.
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Post by Lucas Night on Jul 29, 2024 1:54:12 GMT
Back in here again with more theorizing...! But, this is just taking the new information that there are spread out groups within Team Diamond Crystal. We may be able to narrow down potential locations! I'm going by previous event locations. I'm assuming if something catastrophic happened there, there's likely not a DC enclave to worry with. Don't crap where you eat and the like. Most Likely:Quagmire Town, Nefi Village, Polade City, and Hindors Town... ... have, per my quick review of the linked/listed previous event threads, not had a catastrophic event occur there. Therefore, they're on my highest priority list for possible locations for groups to be within. If I'm wrong, I encourage others to correct me!! It helps us focus on the best candidate locations! That said, there's a few issues with some of these... Quagmire Town is pretty old and run down. Team Diamond Crystal seems well supplied and sophisticated. Would they really hide out here? A similar issue exists with Nefi Village, but the old fashioned aspects... do feel suspicious with the kind of "return to how things SHOULD be" rhetoric DC spouts. Honestly, out of the four, Polade feels the most likely. It's a large city with a dense population. Anything could be there. Potential but Less Likely (in my opinion): Mossrock City and Oasis City. Also Lake Laleh? Mossrock City has the Ranger/Police Union which was attack, but I don't think the city itself was? So, there's a possibility. Oasis City has Team Rocket's base (not that... it's fully public knowledge i think) so it feels kind of... unlikely that neither organization would have run into each other especially considering two DC big players betrayed TR. On high alert for one another, y'know? Lake Laleh counts, mechanically, as a wild area, but there are resorts there. Who knows what suites are permanently rented out for nefarious purposes...! Settlements Previously Attacked:Seabreeze Village, Vester City, and the Outpost/Celebration Stadium*. *I swear a Halloween event happened at the stadium but I don't think I participated and I don't think, looking this over quickly, that anyone summarized anything? BONUS! Wild Areas Not Attacked (Yet?):Grasslands & Deadfall Cliffs + Giya Swamp + The Desert* + Safari Zone** + Tavros Ridge & Sweet Aguav Acres** + Ankhara River + Badlands + Strider Mountains + Other Isle Changling Locations*** *The ruins have had things occur in them, but I don't think the desert itself has? **This just feels unlikely with how monitored/specific in human population it's supposed to be. ***We just don't visit Isle Changling locations enough as a site for me to make a judgement. And, the one location we DID encounter them in seems to be cleared out... for now. . . . Anyways, I guess this is less a functional "theory" and more of something for us to investigate and check. But, we'd need to learn more about what we're looking for, figure out ways to nose around for DC, etc. before any of this is even actionable information. And, again, this even being useful hinges on my assumption that no one is going to ruin the place they have to go live in after. ... And, would be completely negated if a brand new location was discovered, like with the caverns.
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